well good morning everyone welcome to getting started with options my name is barbara armstrong and i am a coach with td ameritrade this is one of my favorite classes to teach and why because it really changed things for me i came in you know i've had money invested in the markets for many many years but i became an active trader or investor where i wanted to be you know behind the wheel of my own financial destiny about a decade ago and after 2007 and 2008 which is now known as the great recession i saw a lot of stocks coming down in price the average portfolio by the time the dust settled was down 40 to 50 percent and i knew that there was a way to make money i knew technically what an option was what a put was what a call was but i had never traded them and so i really didn't have a functioning understanding and but the thing that appealed to me about options and why i chose to learn about the world of options was because i knew that there were option strategies that would work and could make money when the market was going up and we've seen the last few years a lot of the market going up the there are also option strategies believe it or not that can make money when the market is going a whole lot of nowhere which in 2015 the market did it kind of went up a little down a little up a little down a little you know and by the end of the year you know the s p had gone up like one percent you know so there are strategies that can be profitable when the market or a particular stock is going sideways and then of course this year we've had the opportunity to flex our down-trending um strategies and you know this is a way for we can there are option strategies that can work that are designed to be profitable when a stock or the market is falling and so dennis is saying is this the beginning of the series yes it is we are back to week one in a 12-week rotation and so buckle up today we are kind of back to the basics if you are new to this um welcome aboard i saw that someone um doug had typed in that he's finally able to join a live event so welcome to the live show um and if you are a seasoned veteran maybe this will just kind of be a good review for you we always place a trade in each and every class okay so um if you've got questions and and you're probably going to have quite a few of them don't hesitate to type them into the chat um i'd like to greet everybody that is with us today and we've got you know over 100 people and more people struggling in so hello to jeff and uh deborah and todd and ap 514 in seoul and sandeep and uh lillian and um vj and the rest of the gang larry and and robert and elizabeth and juanita uh thank you all for being here we also have a friend and fellow coach with us in the chat today connie hill she brings a wealth of experience so if you have questions my friends don't think that you can't ask a question that it's kind of a dumb question the only poor question is a question that is unasked because if you've got that question there are probably a dozen other people on the live event and dozens more that are going to watch this in the archives that will be grateful that you asked the question if you're watching this in the archives and you have a question just type it in below if you love the session you can type that in also i will respond to every comment typically within at 24 hours another way for you to be able to communicate with us is via the world of twitter so you can see my twitter handle up here it's at b armstrong underscore tda um connie's is at c hill or chill she gets the coolest one of all um underscore tda and we're both posting content on a daily basis that that you know it's another way for us to be able to communicate with you um this is earnings week big week so lots of action happening both pre-market and post market and then there's just a lot of stuff going on in the market this week kind of all together and so that's a way for us to be able to share some of that with you outside of webcast like this and i forgot to update this but today we are actually going to do a long call but this is kind of our back to the basics session so um my bad i forgot forgot to correct that one okay so know that this is an introductory level class we're not expecting you to actually know anything about trading options um and it's you know about but anything that we do in this class is to be considered educational we're not um you know here to make recommendations it neither td ameritrade nor myself know that options aren't suitable for all investors there are special risks inherent to options trading that may expose investors to potentially rapid and substantial losses if you're new to td ameritrade specifically you do have to apply for option trading privileges and not all will qualify um know also that uh this go round we are going to use the thinkorswim web platform which is a little bit different than you know the regular thinkorswim platform and so i've been in there doing some exploring um and you know it's been a good exercise for me and um you know i'll talk a little bit more about that in a minute um and know that all investing involves risk including the risk of loss okay so this class has really been designed to be taught in about a 12-week rotation and so you know today my friends we are back at you know the very tippy top of the rotation so uh sorry it seems that you know my um i'm just trying to get my drawing tools awakened here we go i that wasn't the drawing tool i was intending to use we're back at the very beginning and that the kind of goal of this class is that by the end of 12 weeks you have an idea of one whether or not you want to pursue gaining a further understanding of options the second thing is you'll have a better idea of maybe where you want to start so one of the things because there is a 12th week in the series and i call it the eight things i wish i'd known about trading options when i got started and one of them is that you know after going through the course which i'd recommend and there's a course on td ameritrade it's complementary on the world of options and going through this series i kind of thought i should be able to trade all of these strategies and all i can say about that is like what was i thinking you know like that was you know i'm not much of an artist that was not a good idea so what i'd encourage you to do is just go through this and if you have a five thousand dollar account you might say well i can't really afford to buy a hundred shares of anything right now so and typically when we do a covered call we need to own a hundred shares of something so that one isn't going to work for me probably this one isn't and this one isn't because my account size isn't big enough but you know what these look really interesting and these look really interesting and you know what these look really interesting too so maybe you pick one or two of these strategies to start developing mastery with and so that's kind of the idea okay are there any questions about that now some people might have a really large account and they might own a bunch of stocks that they are hesitant to sell and so this you know covered call might be right up their alley and so you know different strokes for different folks right okay you know somebody's saying i've never used the web well okay spoiler alert i hadn't used it either so um yeah so i've been in there kind of playing around but it kind of takes me back and this isn't an introductory class and so it's i think a good thing to push ourselves to learn new things not just about the market but about trading platforms and and all of that that stuff as well okay so blank page so did i mess things up no this is where we begin and and you might say okay well i am new to the world of trading options so what's the whole deal here i thought there were just puts and calls and you're right we've got puts and we've got calls and we can do two things with a plot we can buy a put or we can sell a put so two things and we can buy a call with calls or sell a call two things you know i feel a bit like nixon here you know but you know we can weave these together in lots of different ways you know hence my previous slide so what we're going to do today is talk about the basics of what it means to buy a put or a call and to buy a um sell a put or a call and then we're going to go out and we're going to do an example trade okay so that's what we're up to so why am i starting with this blank screen well let me come over here the reason i'm starting with this blank screen is that we are going to do a little setup here and and the reason that i didn't create a fancy powerpoint for this is because when i started this is kind of how i approached it because i you know and spoiler alert and i don't think it's really a spoiler a lot of people probably feel this way that when you get started all this stuff can be kind of confusing and so this is what i would do like i'd be sitting in the morning having a cup of coffee or i'd be waiting to pick my kids up at a lacrosse game or or something like that and i would just write this out okay i can only do four things right i can buy a call or i can buy a put now in trader speak we would call that a long call long means buy or a long put or i can come down and i can sell a call or i can sell a put that's it and then you know i would ask myself these questions what does it mean to buy a call like what am i getting myself into when i buy a call so if i look at it and say okay well what does it mean to buy a call well when i buy a call it gives me the right to buy shares typically the multiplier is a hundred it gives me the right to buy shares at the strike price i've negotiated um you know or the strike price i've chosen at any time between when i place the order and the expiration date so it gives me the right to buy and then you know what direction so if i buy a call and it gives me the right to buy the stock at a certain price what direction am i expecting the stock to move in well the direction i'm expecting the stock to go up i'm expecting the stock to go up in price if i buy a call that's a bullish strategy so if we're expecting something to go up we call that bullish you know and you'll hear talk about the bulls and the bears in the market and i kind of thought everybody knew that but somebody asked me what that meant the other day and you know it was a pretty valid question and you know a question that if you don't know the answer to it's kind of like for the longest time like what does it mean if the you know the fed is dovish versus you know so there are all these terms in the world of trading that we kind of bandy about so bullish means we think it's going to go up now how much am i risking if i buy a call so if i buy a call the most i can lose is the premium so if i p paid two dollars a share or two hundred dollars to buy a call how much could i lose i could lose the entire amount and how much could i make well it's actually an infinite amount because technically speaking you know if i buy a call there's no limit to how high a stock could go up in price and every once in a while we will see a stock that goes up you know that some news comes out and it goes up by 30 40 50 overnight if we had bought a call we'd be doing the happy dance if that happened to us and so if we look at this and we say okay now i i can write this out but for me it didn't click until i drew it out and so if i'm to draw this out if we have a stock that's kind of going up in value and we say okay it looks like it's going to continue to go up so i am going to buy a call at 50 at the 50 strike and maybe it's trading right around 50 and so it gives me the right to buy the stock at 50 so why would i want to buy a call at 50 if it's trading at 50 well because i think it's gonna continue to go up and so let's say i paid two dollars for that call and let's say just to make the math easy pour moi um that it goes up to 60 which is a pretty big jump ten dollars yeah that's a 20 increase well if it goes up to 60 dollars what is the premium what like what is this call going to be worth well it's got to be worth at least ten dollars because remember i have the right to buy this stock at fifty dollars so even though it's trading at 60 so that means i could if i wanted to exercise this call i could go out and say i would like to buy if i have one call i'd like to buy a hundred shares of this stock at fifty dollars please so and you have the right to do that and then you could turn around and sell it for sixty and make ten bucks a share and so this call is going to be worth at least ten dollars okay and so you know and i paid two dollars for it so the net is i'm gonna have a gain of eight dollars a share you know which is four times what i paid for it so that's a 400 return so you know people are there's dancing and singing in the streets they're celebrating going on you know and that's that's definitely um would be considered you know a grand slam kind of of win but you know the stock has to go up and you know but if it goes down instead of going up it doesn't even have to go down very much if by the expiration date maybe it's only trading at 49.
But who's going to want to buy that call from me at 49 which you know if the stock is trading at 49 and i have the right to buy it at 50 they could go out in the open market and buy it for less and so it's possible that this could just expire worth not only less but worth nothing so we could lose the entire premium and now this kind of makes more sense why is this infinite because it could technically go up to 60 or 70 or 80 there's no limit to how high it could go okay so that's kind of the basics on this now some might be saying but barb you said that if i had a smaller account buying a call might be an interesting an interesting choice for me and you know but i don't have five thousand dollars to exercise the option and buy five thousand dollars worth of stock which i could then turn around and sell for six thousand so what a lot of traders will do and i'm asked this a lot too is they buy a call and they never have any intention of exercising their right to buy the stock what they want to do is make money when the value of the option goes up okay so then their you know their intention is to buy the call at two and hopefully sell it for three or four or five or six or in our example eight or ten dollars a share so they're not intending to exercise their option it's a possibility and you have the right to do that but many are just looking to um you know buy the call and sell it when it's worth more okay so that's buying a call so let's go back now to you know item number two which is buying a put so buying a put is kind of the opposite and a lot of people think of calls are bullish and and puts are bearish well they are if you're buying so it's the right to sell okay it's the right to sell the stock and this is you know i think that puts are inherently they're intuitively harder for us to understand but what are is our our estimation um of what's going to happen well directionally we're thinking the stock is going to fall in price and this is where this year some people have had a lot of is they have bought puts expecting a stock to continue to fall in price because the s p is down the nasdaq is down the russell's down like the like every major index is down this year and mo that means most of the stocks in the market are down along with it of course there are always some outliers but we're expecting it to go down now how much are we risking the same as we're risking if we buy a call how much could we lose the entire premium so is our reward potentially infinite no i i used to just type in huge and it is huge depending on the strike price um that we're looking at but technically if you want to get like really specific instead of huge it would actually be the strike price because it is possible for the stock to go to zero so we would say well if you you know it gives us the right to sell a stock at a certain strike so if we take a look at that strike price and we had a fifty dollar strike we bought a a put with a fifty dollar strike and it did go to zero how much would we make well the difference between the strike price and what we paid for the option so it's the strike minus the premium so it's still big it's just not infinite okay so how would that look and this was one i especially had to draw out so if we have a stock that is now falling in price tries to rally doesn't quite make it starts to fall again it rallies looks like it's going to fall again we could come out here and say okay and just to keep the math easy i'm going to use 50 just to be consistent and so let's say we buy a put because we're expecting this to continue to fall and let's say we paid two dollars for our hypothetical plot and we have the right to sell so if it continues to fall and it goes all the way down to say 40 well i could go out and buy a hundred shares because the multiplier is typically a hundred i could go out and buy a hundred shares at forty dollars a share so four thousand dollars turn around and exercise my right to sell it at fifty and how much would i make a thousand dollars less what less the two dollars a share i paid to get in now some again may not wanna they may have no intention of exercising their right to sell because they don't own the shares and they don't want to go out and buy shares but what their intention is is to just buy the put for two and sell it at a profit as the stock falls in price and in this example if we could sell this put for ten dollars if it dropped by ten dollars because it's got to be worth at least ten dollars it could be more it could have some time value left in it but you know if i have the right to go out and if i can go out and buy it at 40 and i have the right to sell it at 50 it's got to be worth at least 10.
Okay okay and so what would be my net be eight dollars again happiness joy dancing in the streets you know if that were to happen now what if it instead and we're we're mistaken and it goes up maybe it goes up to you know 52 doesn't even let alone if it goes up to 55 or if it went up to 60 but if it goes up to 52 how much is this put going to be worth if i have the right to sell it at 50 but i somebody could go out and sell shares in the open market for 52. you know if this happened at expiration you know if this happened right out of the gate you know this might decline in value and now be worth 1.50 because it's got more time value but at expiration if this expired above fifty dollars how much could we lose the entire premium we paid to get in okay any questions on that one okay you guys are you're either just riveted by my great penmanship here um where i'm doing a good job on explaining this one or the other okay let's go to selling a call now there's something called a naked call we're never going to talk about naked calls in this class but we are going to talk about covered calls and when we um look at selling something it's not a right it's an obligation so you know if we have the right to do something we can either choose to do it or not if we're obligating ourselves we're saying hey no matter what if i have sold a call i am obligating myself to sell you and typically the contracts are for 100 shares 100 shares of of this stock at the strike price that i've agreed to and so what direction are we expecting the the the stock to go in well either sideways which is quite often the case or maybe even we're thinking it may pull back a bit so this is kind of a neutral to bearish strategy but if we're selling a covered call it's not extremely bearish in that um if it were if we really were thinking the stock was going to tank we probably just sell the stock but you know maybe the stock has been going sideways and so i'll get to that example in just a sec um we'll draw it out but so what are we risking well we're risking if we do a cover call the call being called like the stock being called away and if the stock really goes up we're putting a cap on how much we can make but if we were to sell a naked call our risk you notice it's the exact opposite of buying a call our risk is unlimited now some brokers will not even allow you to sell a naked call because they don't know how to mark like they don't know how to protect you and protect themselves because technically there's no limit to how high a stock can go and so if you sold a call at 50 and it went up to 60 you'd have to go out and buy it at 60 if you didn't own the stock and then come back and sell it at 50.
And so it's hard to quantify your risk okay and so and and how much can you make the most you can make is the credit that you receive when you get into the trade now i'm going to draw an example here um of a kind of more of a covered call idea where let's say you have a stop and we've seen some straws that have done this kind of got a whole lot of sideways and then it comes up again and hits now we call this a ceiling or the the traitor word for it is resistance so think bonking your head on a ceiling so when it hits resistance and rolls over you might say you know what i think it's going to come back down here to this floor or support because it's been doing this you know time and again and so i i own this stock maybe it pays a nice dividend maybe you've owned it for a long time and you've got a really nice profit and there are tax reasons that you don't want to exit the position maybe you just believe in the long-term future of the company whatever it means let's say you own a hundred shares of this stock and you come up and you say okay i am going to sell a call right here at 50 and you get paid two dollars for that call and then when i and your expectation is it's going to come back down here and bounce and when it comes back down here as soon as you see it bounce then you might say okay i got into it right here i got into it right here when it comes down and bounces i'm gonna get out and maybe you get out and and it's worth 50 cents and you made you know a dollar fifty a share or 150 bucks and then it goes back up again and you could sell another one so it goes back up so you may not so the goal for some is not to be called out and then they sell another one you know and then it comes back down and you know they exit again so that's how some people might use the selling of a call and then our risk isn't unlimited because we own the shares but what we are doing is potentially putting a cap on how much we can make if the stock were to really go up dramatically like so let's say we've sold our call and then it goes up and it doesn't stop and and it keeps going up you know we've promised we have obligated ourselves to sell this at 50 so even if it went up to 55 or 60 we are selling that sucker at 50 a share we've promised we have obligated ourselves to do that so if we think it's going to break out and go up how might we you know get rid of that obligation well we could buy it back and we're going to spend an entire class talking about each of these strategies so don't think this is like oh did i get it all it you know this is just an overview because we're also going to spend four weeks talking about you know cases where we have put them together where we put buying a call and selling a call together um and they're buying a put and selling a put together um yeah so then let's go to door number four which is selling a put now when we sell a put what are we doing well similar to buying a call and this was kind of like an aha moment for me i'm obligating myself to buy it's like what in the sam hill i'm obligating myself to buy like how does that work and what am i expecting the stock to do well i'm actually this is bullish because often like in my head i was thinking put bearish not not when you're selling a point when you're selling a put because you're agreeing to be willing to buy the stock why would you want to buy a stock if you thought it was going down well the answer is you wouldn't you know so if you are if you are selling a put you are at least neutral but more likely bullish oh okay tell me more okay how much can you make well the most we can make similar to when we sell a call the most we can make is our credit and how much can we lose and notice like if i can draw your attention to buying a put what's our ultimate reward is the strike minus the premium that's how much we're risking so it's not infinite but it could be huge it's the strike so if we had that 50 strike what if because we're promising we are obligating ourselves to buy and what if we ended up having to buy this stock and then it went to zero so it's the strike minus the premium minus the well actually minus the credit we got paid creditor premium it's the same it's going to be the same amount okay so how how does that work and again um you know for it to like kind of solidify itself in my brain i had to draw it out so we could use either a sideways example and so you know if something was going sideways instead of selling a call when it hits the top when it comes down and bounces we could say okay it's bouncing i'm gonna sell a put right here at 50 bucks i get paid my two dollars and then when it goes up here and hits the ceiling or resistance and starts to roll over i'm going to buy it back and as it goes up it's going to lose value or you might say you know you could just say i'm going to let this you know this baby just continue to mosey along here until it expires worth nothing expires worthless and some people would say hey if it goes up here and i've got a 50 of my max gain and i can buy it back for a dollar and i've been in this for a week i'm going to call that good enough now other people might say okay i see something going up and then it comes down looks like it's going up again well does this chart look pretty similar to this chart yeah it's the same chart so we could either buy a call which is bullish or we could sell a plot and say you know what i think this baby's going to continue to go up it's trading at 52 dollars here's a support level at 51 i'm gonna sell the 50 put get paid two dollars and as this baby continues to go up in value i am going to profit from that the most i can make is two dollars but as it goes up the value of this put falls now what if we are mistaken well if it goes down in value instead if it reaches expiration and you haven't exited the position you are going to end up let's say it's trading at 40 because i've been using that as my example you're going to end up buying a hundred shares of this stock at 50 and right out of the gate it's going to show you're down by a thousand dollars now you're actually down by 800 but this technically speaking could go all the way to zero and so how much in this example could you lose if it were to go to zero 48 dollars a share the strike price of 50 minus the credit now you might say well no company is going to go to zero yeah look at her two or three years ago went into bankruptcy and it went from 20 a share to about a buck in a very short period of time you know or if you bought peloton close to the high and then started becoming a hope dealer and saying oh i keep hoping it's going to go back up if you had sold a put and it was put to you that stock went from about 170 something a share down to around 10.
And so it is possible to experience a lot of pain but it's also possible to use these strategies to make money in any market direction markets going up there's a strategy market's going sideways we've got a strategy market's going down we've got a strategy but i kind of my analogy is it's like having this set of power tools and if you don't know how to use a skill saw man can you make a mess but if you know how to use it and you know which tool to pull out of the bag to use when it can be a really powerful thing and you can create some pretty amazing results and i'm not saying that you aren't going to have losing trades because anyone that tells you that they've never had a losing trade is either not being honest with themselves or they're not being honest with you or both or they've maybe placed one trade in their life and that trade happened to be a winner you know a profitable trade so learning how to manage when trades don't go according to plan as is and it is just as important as learning how to manage trades when they do go according to plan and over the next 12 weeks we're going to explore that in some more detail the other thing i will tell you is that um there are companion classes to every strategy that we teach so if you really like the idea of buying calls and buying puts then you can you know there's a class on mondays called long options you know if you really like the idea of covered calls there's a class right after this that talks about covered calls and selling puts yes to sell a put do you have to own the stock first no that's that's the neat thing about selling a put you're obligating yourself to buy but you do not have to own the stock and sometimes people will sell a put as a way of acquiring stock they'll say you know what this would be really cool you're going to pay me to obligate myself to buy a stock that i wouldn't mind owning anyway and we're going to get kind of more into that so but this is something that if you're new to the world of options if you could just write that down and i don't know if you've copied this down as we've been talking or not or you've captured this in some way um but it's just kind of a neat way to be able to reinforce your own learning all right okay so i'm about to wipe the slate clean here are we ready i'm going to take a picture of that for my own references okay so here we go so now we're going to go out to um toss web and we're going to look at buying a call okay so again when we buy a call that was our our line number one right where it's like okay so oh dang i'm over to chas webb let me just come back here for a sec um where we have a stock that's going up so we have a stock that's going up and you know it's maybe come back or it's been going sideways you know so there are different technical entries and now it's broken out maybe come back to retest and it's going up again and we're going aha i could buy a call right here now how much can we lose when we buy a call we can lose the entire amount so we have to keep event and keep that in mind and the other thing is you know it's a way for us to benefit from the upward movement of a stock with a much smaller investment than it would take to buy the stock out right right right so that's kind of one of the things that's appealing about this strategy for a lot of people because we're controlling or benefiting from the movement of a hundred shares of stock without having to invest in buying a hundred shares of stock but you know if we buy a hundred shares of stock and then the stock goes a whole lot of nowhere at the end of if we had an option that expired in 40 days at the end of 40 days we still have a stock that's worth about the same amount with an option if we buy a call and it hasn't gone up um we have an option that's worth nothing and so you know there's no free lunch in the world of trading um you know like there's there's things that we have to consider so if we were to create and we're going to talk about long calls and long puts in the next two classes but we're looking for a stock that is up trending we're looking for stocks that have high trading volumes we're looking for options on that stock that trade up higher volumes which is known as open interest and volume why do we care about that because we want to be running with the crowd because if we don't and we looked at this in in our long options class yesterday if there aren't very many options being traded the market maker wants a lot more money to try and team up a buyer and a seller and if there isn't somebody on the other side the market maker will take the the other side of the trade and they want to be paid for that so we want there to be just pennies or less than 10 some might have as a guideline and again we're looking for something that is up trending and where there's a technical entry now there's a class called um getting started with technical analysis which if you haven't done it or the stocks technical analysis course i'd recommend both of those um the getting started with technical analysis is mondays at 11 eastern okay so let's go out to the platform and we're not going to do think or swim paper money we're going to go out to toss web and so here is toss web and i put a link in and connie if you could go to the very top uh or close to the top i posted um how you can get to both brent moore's playlist he did a number of little short tutorials between kind of five and 15 minutes on how to use it but there's also a thinkorswim web access and she'll repost that in the chat in the comments if you're watching this in the archives there will be a link to thinkorswim web one of the things i really like is that if you are both investing in your live account and you have a paper money account which is where most of the action is happening if the strategy is new for you um you can just toggle very easily back and forth there's your live account i have no money in this example account and here's paper money account so it's just a an easy click now if there's a stock we want to look at and today i thought we'd look at unh so united healthcare and i can come here and say okay show me the chart and when we look at this chart and i click on this little arrow down here i kind of like to have a bit of space on the side so we can see that like many other stocks it's kind of had its ups and downs but one of the things if i wanted to draw a line i can come here to drawing tools everything is just a little more streamlined on this chart um one of the things that a kind of i spy here is a bit of an inverted head and shoulders pattern where here's one shoulder uh let me just bring this over here so here's uh actually i don't get to use white very often so here's one shoulder the head and the other shoulder and then it's kind of broken above and it's come back and today it's bouncing off this um 30-day moving average and so here's our head and you know and here's our shoulders and this is in the health care sector which has been one of the stronger sectors okay so if we looked at this and said well if we think this is going to continue to go up even if it just went up to here the one feature i added here was average to range and somebody said you seem to really like that strategy and i've used that strategy a lot this year um if you don't have it on your chart if you just come to studies it just has a list of the kind of the most popular studies and you can just click atr and it'll add it if there's something on here that you don't want you can just delete it um so average true range is the amount of stock moves in an average day over the last 14 days because you can see that down here it was moving oh this is u.s dollar i want unh here's the unh so again this is earth to barb okay so if we go you know and it's funny because i had seen kind of the same pattern okay now my drawing tool doesn't want to cooperate but we'd seen kind of a similar type of pattern here and then it pulled back and then this one broke above kind of hung out it's very common when something breaks above for it to come back and retest and then it's moving up again today so here's our head on unh and so when we look at that okay so if we look at that and we say if we bought a call we aren't necessarily it's it's sitting at 5 20 well right now it's at 5 35.
You know if we wanted to do a swing trade we could trade it just back up to the previous high of 553 and say hey if this gets to 553 then you know we would like to exit the the position and so if we wanted to do that how would we put that in well we're going to come over here our icons are on the far left side to this trade tab and i'm going to pick an account i'm going to pick the one with more money because this is an expensive stock it's over 500 a share so we couldn't put it into our our small account and we're going to you see here the option chain we're going to click on option chain and we are going to either this could take a little you know it could take a couple of weeks so if we're doing the the monthly options and what's the advantage of the monthlies is that there tends to be more um more open interest and more volume and so if we come out here to september we're going to pay more for that option so it's trading at 5 35 so we have the we can either do the 530 strike or the 540 strike at 540 it has to go up by five dollars and it has what we call no intrinsic value the main difference between the price of these is that this 530 strike or it's already five dollars what we call in the money and so if we looked at this and said well you know what um we're going to do this at the money strike so that's the closest strike above where it's currently trading and whichever price is higher this is how i wrapped my head around this the bid and the ask because i would always get confused um i'm going to look at this ask price it's it's higher so the market maker always wants you to pay more and when they're selling they want to give you less okay so i'm going to come back to the chart because we're going to um put in a target for this of 553 it's 53.
So i'm coming back to the trade tab and i've got my option trade i want to buy and then i'm going to say i want to do an advanced order and i want to do a first triggers one cancels the other what does that mean it means i want to put in an accent so this is i want to buy oh that's july 29th sorry let's get rid of all that option chain i want to come out to the september monthlies so that gives us 52 days for this stock to reach its target and we're gonna click on the ask that says okay i want to buy one contract of the september 16th the 540 strike call the price is eighteen dollars and fifteen cents that's a share so it's we're risking eighteen hundred and fifteen dollars how much could we lose eighteen hundred and fifteen dollars now do we have any intention of losing that amount no but is it possible yes and so what we're going to do here is come to advanced orders first triggers one cancels the other and it immediately puts up two more orders for us and the first one we're going to do is a limit order and we're going to say hey you know when this goes up let's say we're going to make this good till cancel let's say it goes up by a hundred percent now we we could put in an order and say you know we want this we want to exit this when it doubles in value so 36 10.
When it gets to 36 dollars we want out but we could also say hey if it gets to the point where this has lost half its value we also want to exit and we're going to make that good till cancelled and we're going to come down and say if this gets to the point where this option is worth nine dollars and five cents it's lost half its value now if the stock were to gap down does it mean we're guaranteed to get out at nine dollars and five cents no if it gaps up and all of a sudden you wake up in the morning and some news has come out and it's worth more than 36 could we get out for more than that yes but it won't trigger this order um to exit the trade and you'll notice here it says and uh and or then so we have an either or here so if this one gets filled and we get out at 36 it'll cancel the order to exit at nine and if we get out at nine it'll cancel the order for us to get out at 36.
Now there's an order rule here if we click on this you know we can change when we want to get out and things like that but for this we're just going to review our order and say you know we want to exit we want to buy one contract at 540 and we want to exit either when this doubles in value or i'm going to cancel this one just that extra part of the order or um you know when it's it's worth half its value so we're hitting review and then we're going to send and there we go okay so guys wow i am so sorry we are out of time that has taken longer than i expected so as a wrap know that everything that we do in this class is for education and informational purposes only none of it's to be construed as a recommendation i appreciate you being here have a great day and i'll look forward to seeing you soon take care everyone bye for now