whatsup youtube this video is about understable
and overstable. I am gonna teach you what those words mean
and what those discs are best suited for out there on the course. So next time you are reaching for a disc to
throw a specific shot or looking for a new disc to put in the bag you can make a more
informed choice. Im going to be showing you the numbers on
newer run innova discs and discs by other manufacturers. I am also gonna explain the discraft numbers
and give you the basics on understable and overstable as well as some basic release angles
like hyzer and anhyzer. So lets get started and just so we are on
the same page when we consider how these discs are going to react to being thrown we are
going to be talking about a right handed backhand throw. Either a sidearm or a left handed backhand
would change the spin on the disc it would reverse it so all the things well be talking
about would basically be a mirror image so just to be on the same page we are talking
about a right handed backhand throw. So on to the numbers. Innova has started putting these numbers on
their newer run discs and other manufacturers have started to as well so I will explain
these numbers to you now. So I have written down the numbers for an
aviar, valkyrie and an ape which is an overstable distance driver. The first number is just speed. 9 for the valk 2 for the aviar and 13 for
the ape. 9 is pretty fast definitely a driver. 2 is really slow definitely a putter and 13
is very fast there are only a handful of discs over a 13 in speed. So pretty self explanatory just the speed
of the disc. The next number is Glide. 4 for the valk
3 for the aviar and 5 for the ape. Also pretty self explanatory its just how
long the disc likes to keep spinning and carrying down the fairway. Discs with high glide are great for beginners
and really anyone looking to increase distance because they just want to hang up in the air
longer and keep traveling so that is good. 3 is pretty nice for the aviar. 5 is very
nice. Anything 3 and up is good for glide and anything
in a 2 or a 1 means you are throwing the disc more than making it fly. But those kind of discs have their purpose
too just so they are not gliding too far and so they are more controllable. All of these disc have pretty good glide.
The last 2 numbers are really whats determining
the stability of the disc. The 3rd number negative 2 for the valk and
0 for aviar and ape, is high speed turn. So when you throw your disc backhand it comes
out with some spin on it and it is picking up speed that is the high speed portion of
the flight. Right then as it reaches its natural speed
it should start turning to the right. Since it has a negative number in high speed
stability or high speed turn that means when you throw it fast it loses stability to go
straight and finish to the left like it would thrown slower and it turns to the right. Since the aviar and the ape have a zero that
means they should just fly straight during the high speed portion of the flight and then
finish to the left when they slow down. The last number is fade which is how strong
the disc will finish to left once it slows down.
So the valk even though it will turn it should
also come back at the end and finish left if you throw it correctly. The aviar having a one means it should just
go mostly straight and finish soft to the left it shouldnt really hook much at all. The ape having a 4 means its very overstable
so when it starts slowing down it should start coming in to the left very hard 4 is very
high for fade. If you have a zero for turn the disc is going
to be at least stable. And if it has a negative number it will be
most likely be at least somewhat understable. So let me show you the discraft numbers real
quick before we move on.
They work on a scale of positve 3 to negative
3 This is a meteor and it has a neg .5 with an arrow pointing to the right. Meaning it is understable and wants to turn
to the right. This drone has a large positive number 2.5
with an arrow to the left meaning it is overstable. The force is the same thing it is overstable
2 with an arrow left.
So those are the numbers for discraft not
really talking about glide or speed just stability. So what are these different types of discs
used for out on the course. First lets clarify a couple things. The opposite side of the disc from where you
are gripping it is called the wing. So consider that to be a flat throw. Now if I tilt the wing down it will be on
a hyzer angle. So if it just a neutral straight flying disc
a hyzer angle will cause it to go out and hook to the left
The opposite is an anhyzer which will cause the disc to go from left to right. Now certain discs if you release them on anhyzer
will produce what is called a turnover shot where it will turn to the right and never
come back. If you throw it pretty flat and not too hard
it will turn over during the high speed portion and then come back producing an S curve shot. Another shot you use an understable disc for
is sometimes a disc is so understable you can just throw it flat and get it to go left
to right just based on its natural turn you don't even need to give it the angle
what I like to do with understable discs most of the time is I like to throw them on a hyzer
angle, so rather than throwing it flat and having it turn to the right the turn actually
causes it to pop up straight and then fly like a stable disc from there.
So I like to throw on hyzer it feels more
natural, and it comes out and maybe turns a little bit and then comes back to the left
so you get more distance that way and if you control the angle you can get a very straight
shot all the way. You can also use an understable disc for a
roller shot where you give it such a hard anyhyzer angle that it lands on the edge and
rolls down the fairway.
A very fun shot when you get the hang of it
but they are tough to control so I don't throw a lot of rollers
Finally you want to throw understable for tailwind because with the wind at your back
it will push the disc down and to the left making the disc fly more stable and finish
stronger to the left than normal. Now overstable discs are good are good for
headwind because headwind actually makes the disc less stable so you can throw an over
stable disc into the wind and have it fly like a stable or understable disc.
Also for sidearm. People generally use overstable discs for
sidearm because it generates a lot of speed and torque on the disc and overstable discs
handle that speed and torque better. Also for overhead shots like tomahawks or
thumbers. And also hyzer shots where rather than giving
the angle you can just throw it with a little hyzer or even flat and it will naturally go
out and hook left due to the stability. And if you release them with an anhyzer angle
you can force them to go right for a period of time and then they will fight back left
producing an S curve shot which helps with adding distance and navigating certain fairways. A stable disc would be something like a buzz. Something where its not really overstable
where it hooks left and its not really turning much either. Its really just holding the angle you release
it on. So a lot of people like to use stable discs
most of the time and just give them the angle they want them to fly.
I like to throw on a hyzer so I like to throw
somewhat undesrstable discs so they flip up straight. Now there are some factors that change the
way discs are meant to fly. So sometimes the numbers can be confusing
because you try a disc and its not flying how you expected it to based on the numbers
I wanted to go over those factors now. The first is plastic type. Different plastics have difference flight
characteristics. These are both buzzes but this one is in elite
x so its more understable and this one is in FLX plastic so it is more stable and it
doesn't turn at all so even though they are the same type of disc they fly differently
based on plastic. Another factor is the shape of the flight
plate. You can see the flx buzz has a flat top and
this one is more rounded on top or dome shaped. Generally discs with flatter tops will be
more overstable and discs with rounded tops will be more understable. The exception being certain high speed drivers
the dome shaped ones are more stable.
But generally flatter is more stable. The other factor is weight even thought these
are both soft magnets, this one is heavier than this one so it is more stable. The heavier disc will finish harder left and
handle the wind better and this one will turn more. Finally there is just condition. This one is more beat up and used than this
one so it is less stable even though they are the same weight and plastic. The blue one is more fresh so it is more stable.
So there it is, lots of information to throw
out there for you guys. I wanted to keep it kinda short but it is
a lot to talk about. If you have any questions about this or any
other disc golf related topic as always you can leave a comment or send me a message and
Ill get back to you. Thanks for watching. Cheers.